Shaun
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So, I have an active submission that has been with PCGS for 5 months now, just wondering what everyone elses situations are with submissions? Anyone experiencing such delays?
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On 6/11/2022 at 10:18 PM, BRIAN GREER said:
I have had worse and sold for that price...........but this one seems to be unavailable................good luck
I guess it depends if it's for collecting or resale then, as others have highlighted generally we want to see beautiful specimens!
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@Frank0215 Can confirm that it's just a die crack 🙂
I don't handle that many lizzys, but i don't think it's as common with them.
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On 4/11/2022 at 4:13 PM, SovereignSaurus said:
As a bit more background I see the £1 sov is sometimes going for a higher price than the double. I just feel like a double is better value in that case and perhaps buying the double is the 'best value' way to get a 1989 into the stack?
Doubles don't often sell for much more than spot I don't think, though this year and a few others would be clear exceptions. I guess yes it would be the best value way to get the date into your collection, but then is your collection going to be doubles? 🙂
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12 hours ago, SVcollector said:
After Brexit its very hard to send coins to Paris or US office.
NGC after 2017 has taken all the part of
the pie especially with the modern coins. They are more organised, lower return times than PCGS.
Jamie was doing a really good job at the uk office. I think he left totally from coins , banknotes etc as a main job.
Nothing changed for me since Brexit, maybe for Paris yes but for US things have always been the same.
I agree with turnaround times in general but that's because the market has grown in the last 2 years and the businesses need more time to grow, which they are every day.
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12 hours ago, SVcollector said:
I think this can be done only in us headquarters. I will try and help and see what i can do.
Thanks 👍
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https://auction.royalmint.com/auctions/catalog/id/23
Is this just another gimmick by the RM? Curious as to how they differ if at all from normal strikes, does anyone know more? I imagine they could just be selling bullion as trial pieces knowing them! 😄
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23 hours ago, AndrewSL76 said:
Good morning!
Hope all are well?
I recently bought a really nice 1875 Half. I am struggling a little to confirm whether it is a London or Sydney issue. It’s ridiculous but I just can’t work out if it is a die number (5) or a mint mark (S) under the shield. There is no dot on the reverse which I believe applies to both the Sydney and London version.
Are there any other major distinguishing features? Am I missing something key?
I have consigned to PCGS recently as a London coin as it would fill a gap for me (!) but would equally be happy if it came back as a Sydney Mint coin.
Picture attached. Sorry that it’s not great. Taken before it was consigned and I took a double take on the issue of it possibly not being a London issue.
Thanks for any help!
Really need to get it under a good microscope to tell that if S and 5 is similar on halves. On fulls its normally 5 and 3 that's the issue
Do you have a loupe? Try photographing through it if so.
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13 hours ago, Foster said:
Thanks for your opinion. I’m actually picking up an ultra sonic jewellery cleaner in a few days, do you think it would be suitable to put this sovereign in?
I’m just a little worried if it cleans it too much.
I wonder how the graders would look at it then and maybe class it as ‘cleaned’.
"Cleaned" is typically for harsh cleaning, an ultrasonic (the cheap type off amazon) will be fine, but just use warm water and only for a minute or so.
I would only use the ultrasonic if there is direct deep in the details, legend etc. It won't remove the surface dirt so much. A gentle wipe with your thumb under warm water is best for that.
But do note, that dirt can cover up things, scratches and wear will look less obvious uncleaned.
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On 2/3/2022 at 7:28 PM, SovereignSaurus said:
Hi folks
As a mini goal I've decided to look out for a few other portraits that I don't have already in the bullion stack.
Just added an old veiled Victoria today. I think I'm missing the second and 3rd Elizabeth head and Victoria's Jubilee head out of the 'easier ones' but will have to check when I go to storage.
I did a bit of reading, would I be right in saying George VI is only on a single year proof design?
George III and IV along with William IV might be a work in progress
I'm sure I can spare a bullion Jubilee if you want one 🙂
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@Mike Yes I'm your man for any technical assistance you may need! 🙂
As for brand itself it really depends what you are after, I personally went with Netgear as it was more Enterprise focused but that was some time ago now and things may have changed.
You say for home and work, do you have the secure network setup to handle that?
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Hi everyone, just wondering if anyone here talks directly with anyone higher up at NGC that would be able to assist in some form of partnership with us for usage of the reference?
We have something in place with PCGS already, so it would be great to cover both grading bodies.
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On 2/2/2022 at 10:35 AM, Mike said:
To just illustrate what NGC are capable of photography wise, they took HD photo's of all the coins they had graded for the recent Sincona auction. link below. For me, these photo's are excellent and the light balance superb, to the point of possibly being too detailed and give a better impression than even an inspection by eye, which could put some off:
First time I've seen them and 100% they are far better, but personally didn't like their "style".
I'm crossing my 5 coins from this auction to PCGS so will show the differences when that time comes 🙂
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On 2/5/2022 at 11:33 PM, Steve said:
I wouldn't like to go down the route of crossing from one to t'other, I have heard too many stories of strange decisions that suggests there are politics at work in both camps.
If you don't blindly cross coins you should get good results. A few of mine that didn't crossed I looked again, one got Details Cleaned (originally in NGC slab), and 100% the coin was cleaned!! shocking but cannot be angry that they didn't cross it of course.
It's important to cross from one to the other if you buy a rare coin in one, and it isn't in your set on the other, that's the purpose for the acquisition in the first place if you're going for a competitive set
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@Mike Just to add one more thing on the "buy the coin not the slab" that I and you both preach. This is virtually impossible online with NGC coins, their photography is shocking and often worse than just taking a picture of the slab with your phone. It's very hard to buy an overgraded PCGS coin if you know what you're doing, as you just pop the cert in and for 90% of coins they have high res images (not for some very old slabs).
The days of shows are dwindling, so just be careful everyone with buying online. I've found that quite a lot of popular online weekly auctions sell crap NGC coins, more and more over the last few months in fact. Just keep your eyes peeled and asked for better images if you are paying a lot of money for a high grade coin. Even I've been victim of a few when I turned up late and thought I could grab something good, only to find out it's 2 grades lower and would never cross.
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9 hours ago, Mike said:
Although I don't doubt their stats, i do believe that both registry's make it a point to show they are more conservative than the other and crossing is a challenge for them at times. I’ve had coins fail to cross or come back significantly lower (when ive elected for cross at any grade) and also coins cross as expected when going from PCGS to NGC. All this 100% justifying your statement of buy the coin, not the grade, although in current times that is sometimes difficult.
edit: its been a while since ive crossed as now I crack the slab and send in raw and i have done this on some valuable coins. Again, it comes down to your confidence in the coin rather than the grade it has been given
Where are NGC stats found? I don't trust much of their data, I've been working with it for some time now and their whole backend is a mess. No APIs, inconsistent and messing reference figures, fake varieties and mistakes.
I know you think I just want to push PCGS more than NGC but there is a technical and valid reason for that. If all I were interested in was cost and ease of grading then I also would have picked NGC for my collection, but I didn't so that should speak volumes right? 🙂
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I did just post this on another thread but this also seems like a good place to share it. Many people don't know this, and it is why PCGS slabs often sell for more money.
It is also why you should buy the coin and not the slab, I do very well with my crossovers due this.
Last 30 days if crossovers at PCGS:
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@CaptCaveMan Yes as I say convenience is important, but I did an awful lot if research before deciding, as my collection will be #1 at either grading body, and the features available with PCGS among other factors was important to me.
Generally top coins end up with PCGS, their grades are also often accepted to be better, which is why crossovers aren't easy from NGC to PCGS, this is also why PCGS slabs tend to sell for a premium.
Don't rush the decision, but if you are only starting out I would day do whatever is easiest and cheapest for you.
Here are some crossover stats from PCGS as an example for the last 30 days:
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3 hours ago, Mike said:
Does anyone know if these two TPG's work together and notify the other when a coin is crossed to keep the respective registry's accurate?
No they don't work together, when you cross a coin (to PCGS at least), they send you the NGC cert back. You then have to send this to NGC and hope they accurately act on it.
After my recent correspondence with NGC I'm not too trusting in their processes, which for me isn't surprising.
So before I send off any certs I am writing some scripts on the backend of the reference to store historical pop reports weekly. That way when I send certs off I can more easily see the figures change.
Super important when like me you have single finests or an example where only 3 exist etc.
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16 hours ago, CaptCaveMan said:
For better or worse I've picked up my first slab and here was me thinking nope, they're better 'raw' in NGC terminology 😆
Well it arrived today and now I'm looking at graded Sovereigns and considering if I should send some off 🙈 where does it end...
Well done it's a great coin 🙂
I know NGC is easier to grade with in the UK due to a few passthrough companies, but I would seriously consider PCGS's options. Sign up (I think for free), and take a look at their "Set Registry", it's honestly far suprior.
I can submit a few coins here and there to PCGS for people on the forum, not in bulk and not all of the time, mainly for a few new collectors looking to get started!
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@Foster Just to add that this is DISH M7, and the first legend types are rarer with the different JEB formats (hooked type)
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@Foster depends on your goal really, they aren't the rarest of the first legend types so depends on your cost to grade and purchase cost.
It looks 55/58, little hard to tell the level of detail with the dirt, generally I find no harm in a little rinse with warm water 🙂
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On 1/29/2022 at 1:27 PM, Mike said:
@Shaun Just a thought, is it possible for members to have their own referral link to invite people to the forum? If so could a “founding member” badge be then added to their profile? It could be awarded to any member who has say 10 inbound referrals through their link?Could run for 6months or a year…
It might not be possible but add’s a little incentive. I think FB groups have a similar idea
after that it could be something we could run competitions and other awards on or points gained for referrals of referral's etc…
@Mike does sound like a really good idea but don't think that is a core feature, I will check the marketplace.
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@Mike I've added this now, would you be able to pin a topic there on how to use the trade section and this feature at some point?
The way this works is you create your thread, and then click "Mark Topic" from the thread at the top, then when you need to change it you just jump back and hit it again.
If we need more fields I can add them and also tweak colours a bit if needed
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Sovereign overview spreadsheet
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@Haven The reference we are creating here could use some help if you're interested. I have another layout/view for an overview that I can share with you, PM me if you would like to help us build it :)